CometKat wrote:PSIA would be around the moguls.
There is a regular at Heavenly who I consider to be one of the top five mogul skiers on the mountain. I would say he uses all three techniques in one smooth flow down the run. It’s very impressive to watch.
BTW, this mixed method is advocated by Nelson Carmichael in his Simply Moguls instructional video. To paraphrase, he says you should be able to ski on top, around, through, anywhere on a mogul, to maintain the flow of the fall line.
KevXR wrote:There is another method of "deflection turns" that works great in powder bumps or slush bumps. The turns look like the WC style and absolutely is fast in soft snow.
lesbosses wrote:KevXR wrote:CometKat wrote:There is another method of "deflection turns" that works great in powder bumps or slush bumps. The turns look like the WC style and absolutely is fast in soft snow.
Deflecting my board and no real turns. Nothing better!!
jack97 wrote:IMO, in terms of SVMM, I see differences in the way Joey skis versus his son, Shane. Yeah, Joey is a turning machine but he keeps his hips back and that prevents him from absorbing with the knees and he has to hunch his back forward to put pressure on the front of his skis. I got the vid they are selling and you can Joey doing this during his drills, the hunching to put forward pressure. Shane doesn't do a lot of this, he keeps his upper body more centered over the skis while turning.
PSIA, IMO leverages too much techniques from the racing scene. Also, the cuff neutral approach of the boots and the sidecuts of the skis reflects the fact that they rely on the ski to make the turn. I only see a handful of PSIA instructors that make short radius turns while centered on the ski. In the lateral view, I see most drop the hip into the turn to get better edge angle, I think they are making knee angulation a thing of the past and are relying on more hip angualtion to achieve the edge angles. Then in the fore/aft, due the cuff neutral and lateral stiffness of the boot they end up on the back seat. IMO, they have to rely line selection as a way to control speed versus not taking a direct path on the fall line.
KevXR wrote:Interesting. Hip angulation is going to be too slow for most fast mogul skiing.
KevXR wrote:They need to ski moguls and that may not include skiing zipper lines.
CometKat wrote:I agree with the whole premise of this website that WC is the best way to ski moguls. However, I also think if you ski natural moguls having a big bag of tricks is very useful. That might mean throwing in an occasional PSIA swooper to avoid a rock or a giant cliff. Or maybe hopping a trough or doing a quick turn on top of a bump. The way I see it since I’m not competing I can do whatever I want. Lately I’ve been working on skiing opposite the line as an exercise. This is right out of Carmichael’s video and is an interesting challenge.
KevXR wrote:It's a real turn. As real as WC and great for powder bumps on West Face of KT.
KevXR wrote:"SVMM" is what we use to call skiing "Tops".
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